Talk to the Dead.
Jesus has wiped out sin, healed us and conquered death. While we are on the subject of death, what about all those who never got to hear Jesus. What about the saints that died before Jesus taught the truth? John helps us with this. Up until Jesus death from what I understand if you died whether saint or not you just went to hades and went to sleep. Check out my hell study for more information on this. We have a multitude of people sleeping while Jesus is on the cross. John 5:25,28. Tells us about this.
John 5:25, 28-29 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (UKJV)
Jesus tells us that He will go into the depths of the earth like Jonah in the whale for 3 days. Matthew 12:40. But to do what? John 5 tells us. To talk to the dead or sleeping. To preach the good news. Jesus says here that those who done good will go with Him. But those who do evil will be dammed. Lets see what the word means.
Blue letter bible website says:
Judgement, damnation, accusation, condemnation.
Well I was wrong. There must be a hell then?
When you look at the blue letter bible it shows you what the king james translates it as. Then it shows the outline of biblical usage. This is a lot different to the king james.
A separating, sundering, separation, a trail or contest, selection.
All of that before judgement. In my Hell blog I talk about Matthew 25. The sheep and the goats. I believe that this is the non-Christians who are being separated. Those who have done good go to heaven and those who have done evil are refined. John 5:29 conforms this when you see that the word damnation could be or should be separation.
What about the saints?
Matthew helps with this:
Matthew 27:52,53. And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. (UKJV)
When Jesus died His resurrection power raised the saints. They went into the city and showed them self’s. What kind of conversation could you have with one of those saints? If you read on, the centurion who saw this was afraid and said that Jesus was the Son of God. You never see this in any of the films. Could this be the last day that Jesus was talking about in John 6:39,40,44,54, and Martha mentions in John 11:24?
We have always assumed that the last day is sometime in the future when Jesus comes back. If that is true then how is it that these saints where raised on the same day Jesus died? Are we again being tricked by the enemy to think that we are to wait for Jesus to complete His work? But didn’t Jesus say that He had completed His Fathers work and even on the cross His last words where “it is finished” John 17:4,19:30. What would it mean for us if all this where true. That we don’t have to wait for Jesus to complete what He set out to do but like Jesus said it is finished. It would change things in a big way.
The Worlds and satans judgement.
If it is finished then what about judgment and satan? John’s gospels points to the cross being the last day. We will look at the world first then satan.
This is a bit confusing because Jesus on the one hand says that He hasn’t come to Judge the world but to save it. John 12:47. But then He says now is the judgement of this world. John 12:31.
I am going to look at the words used in this chapter to see what Jesus was talking about.
Blue letter Bible website says:
John 12:31- Krisis-G2920.
A separating, sundering, separation, a trail or contest, selection, judgement.
John 12:47- Krino-G2919.
to separate, put asunder, to pick out, select, choose. Judge, determine, go to law.
The translations are the same.
Lets have a look at the scriptures:
John 12:31,47. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. (UKJV)
Verse 31 says that the world is to be judged now. Which tells us that it’s at the cross that the judgment happened. This verse would follow the separation theory.
Verse 47 tells us that Jesus has not come to judge but to save. If anyone hears but doesn’t believe. Jesus also says elsewhere that He has not come to judge. John 8:15
What does this mean?
In verse 31 Jesus mentions the world first then satan. Could it be that the word is different? Lets have a look.
The word for world is the same. If you look at the Greek for it, it means: Cosmos. Which is the order of things. Even the strongs points to this. Kosmos-G2889. World, universe, order, government. It also says men, the human family and the inhabitants of the earth.
I believe we need to look at the context of the verses to understand what Jesus is saying.
In verse 31 Jesus is talking about satan and the world view. Which would fit the world order, government translation of this word.
In verse 47 Jesus is talking about the judgement of the person. Which if you look at the translation of the word world it can mean inhabitants of earth, men, and the human family. It may be the same word but it’s not the same use of the word.
We also need to apply this to the word judge or judgement.
In verse 31 Jesus is talking about the separation of the world like He does in Matthew 25. He says of satan that he will be cast out not judged.
When you get to verse 47 Jesus has talked about His death and being the light in the world. The Jews would think of judgement not separation. This is I believe why Jesus says He came not to Judge but to save.
One thing we have to realise is how the judgment works. Just like sin and sickness it took an eternal human to complete the work that was done. Jesus when He died went into the eternal realm. That is how He was able to heal all diseases, cleanse all sin and judge the entire world. This is the only way it could have happened. Think about it, the sins I do today are done today. If Jesus weren’t eternal He would not be able to cleanse me of my sin today. The same is with sickness and judgement. Jesus has judged the world system and its ruler but has healed or saved all people. It was all done at the cross.
Continues in part 5…..